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<v Matt>TeraWulf pops more than 10% on a $19 billion headline, and I've read the whole thing twice.

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<v Matt>Twenty-year lease, big number, and not a single megawatt in it.

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<v Sarah>$19 billion in contracted revenue over twenty years, Reuters via Economic Times.

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<v Sarah>And they're dumping the Abernathy stake to fund the pivot — bitcoin miner turning into an AI landlord.

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<v Matt>Right, but the equity market just priced in certainty the contract language may not contain.

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<v Matt>Where's the capacity breakdown?

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<v Matt>What part is committed lease, and what part is an option they can walk away from?

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<v Sarah>The stock answered a question the filing didn't.

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<v Sarah>There's the gap: market confidence at ten percent, disclosed megawatts at zero.

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